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Now that DTV is delayed........

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What will the stations do?

WOWK has already ceased analog broadcasting, WSAZ announced they would cease analog broadcasting on Feb 17th as planned.

http://www.wsaz.com/news/headlines/39114122.html
Congress has now decided to delay the upcoming transition from analog to digital TV broadcasting for four more months, but WSAZ still intends to turn off its analog transmitter on February 17.
June 12th is now the mandatory broadcasters date. I am told LPTV has another year, cable has 3 years. Have you heard about the plans of the other stations in the market? WCHS/WVAH, WPBY, WLPX, the LP's and translators?
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WTAP has announced it will change on the 17th
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WSAZ - 2/17
WCHS - 2/17
WVAH - 2/17
WOWK - Already off
WLPX - Decision Monday
WQCW - Decision today or Monday
WTSF - Will continue in analog and digital TFN.


Any station wishing to proceed with termination on 2/17 must e-File a notice with the FCC their intent by this coming Monday and update Form 387. Once you decide to terminate, you may not change your mind---unless an emergency necessitates. If you decide to terminate 2/17, you must run 120 on air notifications prior to termination, between 2/10 and 2/14, you must air a crawl for at least 5 minutes of every hour, between 2/15 and 2/17, at least 10 minutes of every hour. The FCC is also urging stations to continue broadcasting a slate with audio modeled after the analog "nightlight" slate for up to two weeks following 2/17.

The FCC may require a station to continue analog operation beyond 2/17 where it finds that the public interest requires such continued operation. They will "scrutinize any market where all of the stations indicate they will terminate analog operations on 2/17.

There are additional criteria set forth for stations that wish to stay on after 2/17 but not necessarily until 6/20.

More will follow, I am sure.
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Maybe we could start refertring to June 20th as "the digital deadline for the deaf and the dumbasses".

I mean, it ain't like you didn't know it was coming ...

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Force Commander wrote:What will the stations do?
June 12th is now the mandatory broadcasters date. I am told LPTV has another year, cable has 3 years. Have you heard about the plans of the other stations in the market? WCHS/WVAH, WPBY, WLPX, the LP's and translators?
Is there a requirement for cable systems to go 100% digital? I didn't think there was. Although I'm sure they wouldn't mind, because then they can force everyone to rent boxes from them and charge lots of BS fees like a "remote fee". (Time Warner sucks...)
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CHARLESTON, W.Va. (AP) — A Florida-based cable operator has decided not to terminate cable service to 19 customers in Gilmer County.

Windjammer Communications originally planned to halt service on Feb. 17, the day the nation was to switch from analog to digital broadcast transmissions.

Congress has since delayed that until June.

In a letter filed Friday with state regulators, Windjammer said it plans to continue service until it's Gilmer County franchise expires in August 2011.

It was not immediately clear how Windjammer's decision would affect the 2,658 customers served by 19 other rural cable systems it owns in the state.

Windjammer purchased the cable systems last year from Time Warner.
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sportsvoice wrote:Is there a requirement for cable systems to go 100% digital? I didn't think there was. Although I'm sure they wouldn't mind, because then they can force everyone to rent boxes from them and charge lots of BS fees like a "remote fee". (Time Warner sucks...)
I was told secondhand by a LPTV owner that LP's turn next year, and cable has to switch in 2012. My source in DC also said that is correct. Understand again this is secondhand information to me, but it is what I have been told about this from 2 sources.

On a separate but interesting sidebar, I am also told the cable and satellite companies are required to carry the analog signal of the BROADCAST stations for 3 years. There are supposedly no provisions requiring them to carry ANYTHING else in analog. I have been told of a cable company in Detroit that already have dropped their analog offerings from 70 some to 24. Then offer one box for free, but requiring rental fees for a box for each additional TV in the home. Nice! :evil:
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The Gilmer county cable system has only 19 customers?

Is Windjammer planning to sell the systems or just turn them off and abandon them?
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genlock wrote:The Gilmer county cable system has only 19 customers?

Is Windjammer planning to sell the systems or just turn them off and abandon them?
Previously, they had planned to turn them off and walk away. Again, the expense to upgrade far exceed the revenue coming in for these tiny systems. The max number of subs on any of these Windjammer systems is under 200. By contrast, Suddenlink has about 110,000 just in the Charelston, WV, DMA. These are old Nielsen numbers and they are in accurate but they do give you the picture.
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Windjammer Says It Will Keep the 19 Gilmer County Customers, for now:

http://www.herald-dispatch.com/archive/x2134008457/?r=r

WV PSC Seeks Numbers On Windjammer's Cable Cutoffs:

http://www.herald-dispatch.com/archive/x2039746641/?r=r
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It seems, to no one's surprise, WOAY is the only station that won't be switching off on the 17th.
All W.Va. TV stations except WOAY
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Recently passed legislation will not affect several television stations in the region from changing to digital television broadcasting on Feb. 17, according to station officials.

“Every commercial television station in West Virginia will convert to digital-only broadcasting on Tuesday, Feb. 17, except for the ABC affiliate in the Oak Hill and Beckley market, WOAY-TV 4,” said Michelle Crist, executive director of the West Virginia Broadcasters Association.

Two stations serving the Bluefield-Beckley-Oak Hill television market, Fox and CBS affiliate WVNS TV 59 and NBC affiliate WVVA TV 6, made a joint announcement Wednesday that both will convert to digital-only broadcasting Feb. 17.

“The stations in this market have done an outstanding job of educating the public to this conversion and that it would occur on Feb. 17. We greatly appreciate members of Congress for providing stations the flexibility to convert in February as we believe our viewers are ready,” said Frank Brady Jr., vice president and general manager of WVVA-TV.

In a joint statement, station representatives said their research indicated that less than 1 percent of the households in the Bluefield-Beckley-Oak Hill market were not yet prepared for the conversion from analog to digital.

“As a result of this conversion, viewers will have many programs offered in high definition, which is of incredible quality,” said Bray Cary, president of West Virginia Media Holdings, owner of WVNS-TV. “Plus, most of the stations are offering more than one programming service, which enhances viewers’ options.”

The stations said they would be ready to answer any questions viewers might have about the digital conversion through their Web sites or via phone calls to the stations during business hours.

Jim Martin, chief engineer for WOAY-TV, says his station is receiving at least four calls per day regarding the switch and converter boxes.

“So many viewers are just not ready,” he said. “They are having trouble getting converter boxes and we are not satisfied with the quality of reception for analog television users. Our current plan is to wait until June so that we can continue to serve these customers. We don’t want to lose or alienate any of our viewers. We agree with the federal government that lots of viewers are not ready.”


Crist said the recent DTV bill that moves the required national digital conversion date to June 12 was approved by Congress, but allows stations to go forward with the switch to digital-only broadcasting Feb. 17.

Crist said the president is expected to sign it into law in the next week to ten days.

“This new legislation, though, still allows for stations to convert earlier if they so choose, which area broadcasters have elected to do, consistent with Federal Communications Commission rules,” she explained.

This means those with rabbit ears or rooftop antenna will have to have a converter box to get these channels, except for WOAY. Those with cable and satellite television service do not need a converter box, Crist said.

“Viewers need to educate themselves about the converter box and make sure that it is hooked up properly,” she said.

Crist suggested viewers call the television station if they are having trouble picking up that station after installing the converter box.

WSAZ in the Charleston-Huntington television market intends to permanently cease analog television service on Feb. 17 as well. Also in the Charleston-Huntington market, WCHS, WVAH and WOWK will also permanently cease analog television service on Feb. 17.

It is anticipated that the stations will transition to digital-only broadcasting between midnight and 1 p.m. on Feb. 17. Each station will be informing their viewers of the exact time of the switch through station announcements and newscasts, Crist added.

“If you watch these stations on an analog TV with rabbit ears or a rooftop antenna, you can continue to receive the station by using a converter box, subscribing to cable or satellite service or buying a TV with a digital tuner,” Crist said.

For more information concerning the DTV transition, converter boxes and how you can continue to receive the station, call 1-877-388-5473. This number is staffed 24 hours a day, seven days a week, by people who can answer questions, officials said.

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You know, the more I've thought about it, the less pissed I am about the delay. This is how it SHOULD have been done to begin with. Set the transition date at Nov. 1, 2008... waivers and alibis until 2/17/09. This hard/fast/everyone tests it out on the 17th is a little short sighted for such a massive project.
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Does WOAY have a huge concern for that 1% of their viewers who are not digital-ready, or can they not afford to have everything in place within the next two weeks to flip the digital switch? There is a track record here, you know.

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Hoosier Daddy wrote:Does WOAY have a huge concern for that 1% of their viewers who are not digital-ready, or can they not afford to have everything in place within the next two weeks to flip the digital switch? There is a track record here, you know.

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While their DTV picture is clearer than their analog, the sound is still mono.

They're not even ready for Stereo sound. Much less DTV...

Their news set hasn't been updated in at least 15 years.

I wish ABC would force them to completely upgrade to digital standards, or lose affiliation. It's beyond ridiculous.

As for all of these people in their COL who have still never heard about DTV, that doesn't surprise me one bit...
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In the Northern Panhandle both WTOV and WTRF have both announced they will filp on the 17th. WTOV is doing DTV testing atleast 3 times a day a couple days a week during their news cast. IF you have digital you get the news if not you get an informational broadcast on how to get dtv.
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Every station in the Charleston Huntington market is going on the 17th so says an article in the Ironton Tribune with qutes from WOWK General Manager and WSAZ Interactive Manager (what's he know? Where is the CE or the GM?)

WSAZ I'm told has applied to run the "Night Light" service message that was set up by the first Rockerfeller bill a few weeks ago. It's a simple message that says there is no programmming here, to receive DTV you must....yada yada yada...then it repeats in Spanish, then it repeats in English 24/7 for no less that two weeks and no more tha 30 days. I can see guys now, Friday nights, buzzed to the max sitting and staring waiting for Jessica to show up on the news....not going to happen guys. They also have to air all "emergency information" on the analog as long as it is running. I am also tolded by a MCR op at the station that there is a crawl that has to run starting today and then on the 10th the crawl has to run every hour for 5 minutes and then on the 15th the crawl has to run every hour for 10 minutes. That will be fun to watch. There is a posting at Marshall job services office that has WSAZ looking for students to staff telephones on the 18th and 19th. What the hell do they know about the DTV transition. Again the contact is Jack Deakin 690-3010 Pay is listed as TBA - probably they will pay with umbrellas or one of those great WSAZ Bic pens they always give away at events. Nunley will do it for a date with Jessica, right Jay?
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aninsider wrote:There is a posting at Marshall job services office that has WSAZ looking for students to staff telephones on the 18th and 19th. What the hell do they know about the DTV transition.
There are many college students who work telemarketing. This will be no different.
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The-Hammer wrote:
aninsider wrote:There is a posting at Marshall job services office that has WSAZ looking for students to staff telephones on the 18th and 19th. What the hell do they know about the DTV transition.
There are many college students who work telemarketing. This will be no different.
Every one of these student "helpers" will be armed with scripts outlining things for the confused tv viewer to do,
including a list of WSAZ advertisers who carry overpriced, antennas, converter boxes and TV sets.
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Ya know, I wonder what a DTV converter box is going for at Mac & Dave's? I also am currious what the going rate for a pawned 19" TV these days?
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TVWeek:
Rockefeller Again Urges Stations to Wait Until June for DTV Switch

By Ira Teinowitz

For the second time this week, the chairman of the Senate Commerce Committee is urging broadcasters not to go ahead with the digital TV changeover before June 12.

In a statement today, Sen. Jay Rockefeller, D-W.Va., suggested broadcasters should act in the public interest and delay any move. Sen. Rockefeller was the sponsor of the legislation delaying the digital TV changeover from Feb. 17 to June 12. That legislation now sits on President Barack Obama’s desk awaiting his signature.

While the legislation allows TV stations to switch before June 12, Mr. Rockefeller cited some of the same concerns about viewer readiness for the switch that led Congress to delay the changeover.

“Broadcasters in West Virginia and throughout the country are still permitted to move forward with their DTV transition on Feb. 17, but I strongly urge them to instead take advantage of the June 12 delay in every area where consumers are not completely ready,” he said in the statement.

“This is not just about being able to watch sports or a favorite sitcom. We must do everything we can to make sure that no family loses access to over-the-air broadcast signals because of the important news and public-safety information that comes over the television.

“It’s my hope that broadcasters look at this delay not as an inconvenience, but an opportunity to provide support for consumers who need it most,” Sen. Rockefeller added.

After the House approved the legislation on Wednesday, Sen. Rockefeller urged broadcasters to hold back, and put the interest of viewers first.

“I hope that many will think of the needs of their customers and carefully weigh their options,” he said then.
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