Global Warming Anyone?

[Bob Campbell]

Okay, I had to, just to poke the bear.

North Carolina just endured its hottest June ever, with average temps nearly a degree higher than the previous record.
Seems like it may be a tad warm in other places this summer also.

Hotter summer, colder winters, more extreme weather. Just like the scientists predicted.

[Dave Harman]

Even a stopped clock is right twice a day.

[CoolBreeze]

I call bullshit: How about 104 degrees on JUNE 8, 1933 right here in Charleston? We all KNOW that it's hotter, and has been so since at least 1993. But man made global warming? Hahaha...

[genlock]

Dillinger was killed during that heat wave.

[cgarison]

Last night I heard on ABC that this was the first 100 degree plus heat wave in Philly in 10 years......

I must call BULLSH__ on this as I spent a week in July 2005 eating water ice and drinking ice coffee as the temperature in Philly hit triple digits 4 days in a row.

[AmpedNow]

I blame everyone that drives a vehicle with an internal combustion engine.

It's double bad if you run the A/C in your vehicle on such a hot day.

Artificial cooling. Mother Earth is screaming at us.

This is the point in the story when Obama declares this "a crisis of epic magnitude", and seizes everyone's vehicles.

"Never again, will our weather and seasons be prone to such extremes."

The end.

[jag]

AND...,

What about all those mild summers that we've had in recent years? Or, let's be more up-to-date. What about the brutal winter that so many of us experienced?

Climate and weather are quite different.

[DJSHOCKLEY]

No matter how much money the big corps that don't want to change the way that they do business spend to try to convince folks otherwise, this is a debate that has been over for a VERY long time.. "A group of 3,146 earth scientists surveyed around the world overwhelmingly agree that in the past 200-plus years, mean global temperatures have been rising,
"and that human activity is a significant contributing factor in changing mean global temperatures.

Why do the rightwingers claim that its a lie?/

Because they are PAID to lie about it, Just like when Bob Dole shot himself in the head and claimed that he didnt know that nicotine was addictive:



Scientists' Report Documents ExxonMobil’s Tobacco-like Disinformation Campaign on Global Warming Science
Oil Company Spent Nearly $16 Million to Fund Skeptic Groups, Create Confusion

WASHINGTON, DC, Jan. 3–A new report from the Union of Concerned Scientists offers the most comprehensive documentation to date of how ExxonMobil has adopted the tobacco industry's disinformation tactics, as well as some of the same organizations and personnel, to cloud the scientific understanding of climate change and delay action on the issue. According to the report, ExxonMobil has funneled nearly $16 million between 1998 and 2005 to a network of 43 advocacy organizations that seek to confuse the public on global warming science.

"ExxonMobil has manufactured uncertainty about the human causes of global warming just as tobacco companies denied their product caused lung cancer," said Alden Meyer, the Union of Concerned Scientists' Director of Strategy & Policy. "A modest but effective investment has allowed the oil giant to fuel doubt about global warming to delay government action just as Big Tobacco did for over 40 years."

Smoke, Mirrors & Hot Air: How ExxonMobil Uses Big Tobacco's Tactics to "Manufacture Uncertainty" on Climate Change details how the oil company, like the tobacco industry in previous decades, has

raised doubts about even the most indisputable scientific evidence
funded an array of front organizations to create the appearance of a broad platform for a tight-knit group of vocal climate change contrarians who misrepresent peer-reviewed scientific findings
attempted to portray its opposition to action as a positive quest for "sound science" rather than business self-interest
used its access to the Bush administration to block federal policies and shape government communications on global warming
ExxonMobil-funded organizations consist of an overlapping collection of individuals serving as staff, board members, and scientific advisors that publish and re-publish the works of a small group of climate change contrarians. The George C. Marshall Institute, for instance, which has received $630,000 from ExxonMobil, recently touted a book edited by Patrick Michaels, a long-time climate change contrarian who is affiliated with at least 11 organizations funded by ExxonMobil. Similarly, ExxonMobil funds a number of lesser-known groups such as the Annapolis Center for Science-Based Public Policy and Committee for a Constructive Tomorrow. Both groups promote the work of several climate change contrarians, including Sallie Baliunas, an astrophysicist who is affiliated with at least nine ExxonMobil-funded groups.

Baliunas is best known for a 2003 paper alleging the climate had not changed significantly in the past millennia that was rebutted by 13 scientists who stated she had misrepresented their work in her paper. This renunciation did not stop ExxonMobil-funded groups from continuing to promote the paper. Through methods such as these, ExxonMobil has been able to amplify and prop up work that has been discredited by reputable climate scientists.

"When one looks closely, ExxonMobil's underhanded strategy is as clear and indisputable as the scientific research it's meant to discredit," said Seth Shulman, an investigative journalist who wrote the UCS report. "The paper trail shows that, to serve its corporate interests, ExxonMobil has built a vast echo chamber of seemingly independent groups with the express purpose of spreading disinformation about global warming."

ExxonMobil has used the laudable goal of improving scientific understanding of global warming—under the guise of "sound science"—for the pernicious ends of delaying action to reduce heat-trapping emissions indefinitely. ExxonMobil also exerted unprecedented influence over U.S. policy on global warming, from successfully recommending the appointment of key personnel in the Bush administration to funding climate change deniers in Congress.

"As a scientist, I like to think that facts will prevail, and they do eventually," said Dr. James McCarthy, Alexander Agassiz Professor of Biological Oceanography at Harvard University and former chair of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change's working group on climate change impacts. "It's shameful that ExxonMobil has sought to obscure the facts for so long when the future of our planet depends on the steps we take now and in the coming years."

The burning of oil and other fossil fuels results in additional atmospheric carbon dioxide that blankets the Earth and traps heat. The amount of CO2 in the atmosphere has increased greatly over the last century and global temperatures are rising as a result. Though solutions are available now that will cut global warming emissions while creating jobs, saving consumers money, and protecting our national security, ExxonMobil has manufactured confusion around climate change science, and these actions have helped to forestall meaningful action that could minimize the impacts of future climate change.

"ExxonMobil needs to be held accountable for its cynical disinformation campaign on global warming," said Meyer. "Consumers, shareholders and Congress should let the company know loud and clear that its behavior on this issue is unacceptable and must change."


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20122975/si ... ek/page/0/
It was 98 degrees in Washington on Thursday, June 23, 1988, and climate change was bursting into public consciousness. The Amazon was burning, wildfires raged in the United States, crops in the Midwest were scorched and it was shaping up to be the hottest year on record worldwide. A Senate committee, including Gore, had invited NASA climatologist James Hansen to testify about the greenhouse effect, and the members were not above a little stagecraft. The night before, staffers had opened windows in the hearing room. When Hansen began his testimony, the air conditioning was struggling, and sweat dotted his brow. It was the perfect image for the revelation to come. He was 99 percent sure, Hansen told the panel, that "the greenhouse effect has been detected, and it is changing our climate now."

The reaction from industries most responsible for greenhouse emissions was immediate. "As soon as the scientific community began to come together on the science of climate change, the pushback began," says historian Naomi Oreskes of the University of California, San Diego. Individual companies and industry associations—representing petroleum, steel, autos and utilities, for instance—formed lobbying groups with names like the Global Climate Coalition and the Information Council on the Environment. ICE's game plan called for enlisting greenhouse doubters to "reposition global warming as theory rather than fact," and to sow doubt about climate research just as cigarette makers had about smoking research. ICE ads asked, "If the earth is getting warmer, why is Minneapolis [or Kentucky, or some other site] getting colder?" This sounded what would become a recurring theme for naysayers: that global temperature data are flat-out wrong. For one thing, they argued, the data reflect urbanization (many temperature stations are in or near cities), not true global warming.

[genlock]

I don't know if you have read this yet, but the global warming "scientists" cooked the books and
there figures are lies. They lied for profit and the fame of science.

[fearpeddler]

I don't know if you have read this yet, but the global warming "scientists" cooked the books and
there figures are lies. They lied for profit and the fame of science.

and they even admitted cooking the books.....

[cgarison]

And BP was the principal source of funds when Energy Secretary Steven Chu managed the Lawrence Berkely National Lab and performing research in alternative forms of carbon based fuels.


Yep.... It is all a conspiracy.

[Lester]

Okay, I had to, just to poke the bear.

North Carolina just endured its hottest June ever, with average temps nearly a degree higher than the previous record.
Seems like it may be a tad warm in other places this summer also.

Hotter summer, colder winters, more extreme weather. Just like the scientists predicted.

You failed to mention the near record LOWS last week.

Picking and choosing that science again, Bob?

[Bob Campbell]

hotter

Okay, I had to, just to poke the bear.

North Carolina just endured its hottest June ever, with average temps nearly a degree higher than the previous record.
Seems like it may be a tad warm in other places this summer also.

Hotter summer, colder winters, more extreme weather. Just like the scientists predicted.

You failed to mention the near record LOWS last week.

Picking and choosing that science again, Bob?

And even they didn't keep the month from being the hottest ever.
Ah...I knew this would rile up the science deniers.

Hey, did you notice the story last week about Nixon and his science people starting to worry about global warming?

I don't know if you have read this yet, but the global warming "scientists" cooked the books and
there figures are lies. They lied for profit and the fame of science.

Not actually true, but good fodder for the right wing spinners.

AND...,

What about all those mild summers that we've had in recent years? Or, let's be more up-to-date. What about the brutal winter that so many of us experienced?

Climate and weather are quite different.

And exactly what the models predict. If you'd read my post you'd have seen where I said "hotter summers, colder winters, more extreme weather". That's called climate.

It's fun to see you guys who don't believe in the very science that you use in your every day lives. Ah....life is good.

[genlock]

Warmin alarmist bob wrote: "hotter summers, colder winters, more extreme weather".

That is a description that could apply to anything weather related all the time.

The warmist scientists lied and cooked the books.
They are the Enron among scientists.

[genlock]

"I've just completed Mike's Nature trick of adding in the real temps to each series for the last 20 years ... to hide the decline."

That tells the story right there.

[Bob Campbell]

"I've just completed Mike's Nature trick of adding in the real temps to each series for the last 20 years ... to hide the decline."

That tells the story right there.

Ah, the famous "adding in the real temps" line. So, out of literally thousands of peer reviewed studies, one line, taken out of context and not describing a "cooking of the books" at all, means that everything done is false.
I call bullshit.

Many of the recent warming studies were done DESPITE government suppression by the Bush administration. Nasa and NOAA researched literally risked their careers to do good science.

And still, ZERO peer reviewed, repeatable experiments that can predict future events have been done by the deniers.

[Dave Harman]

OK, so there's too many people, and it's causing the earth to heat up.

Which group do you GW advocates want to round up and send to the gas chamber first?

[Jay Nunley]

Justin Bieber fans. Of course, that has nothing to do with global warming. I just want them out of the gene pool.

[genlock]

The principal scientists got caught lying.
They provided the doctored data for the peers to review.

[Bob Campbell]

The principal scientists got caught lying.
They provided the doctored data for the peers to review.

sorry, not true.

And, as always, Nunley makes a great point.