A recent speech......

[fearpeddler]

this kind of pulled at me a little.....

Geert Wilder's speech to Holland's Parliament

Madam Speaker, allow me, first, to express my sincere thanks to you personally for having planned a debate on Islam on the very day of my birthday. I could not have wished for a nicer present! Madam Speaker, approximately 1400 years ago war was declared on us by an ideology of hate and violence which arose at the time and was proclaimed by a
barbarian who called himself the Prophet Mohammed. I am referring to Islam.


Madam Speaker, let me start with the foundation of the Islamic faith, the Koran. The Koran's core theme is about the duty of all Muslims to fight non-Muslims; an Islamic Mein Kampf, in which fight means war, jihad. The Koran is above all a book of war "“ a call to butcher non-Muslims (2:191, 3:141, 4:91, 5:3), to roast them (4:56, 69:30-69:32), and to cause bloodbaths amongst them (47:4). Jews are compared to monkeys and pigs (2:65, 5:60, 7:166), while people who believe in Jesus Christ as the Son of God must according to the Koran be fought (9:30).

Madam Speaker, the West has no problems with Jews or Christians, but it does have problems with Islam. It is still possible, even today, for Muslims to view the Koran, which they regard as valid for all time, as a licence to kill. And that is exactly what happens. The Koran is worded in such a way that its instructions are addressed to Muslims for eternity, which includes today's Muslims. This in contrast to texts in the Bible, which is formulated as a number of historical narratives, placing events in a distant past. Let us remind ourselves that it was Muslims, not Jews or Christians, who committed the catastrophic terrorist attacks in New York, Madrid and London; and that it was no coincidence that Theo van Gogh was brutally murdered by a Muslim, Mohammed Bouyeri.

Madam Speaker, I acknowledge that there are people who call themselves Muslims and who respect our laws. My party, the Freedom Party, has nothing against such people, of course. However, the Koran does have something against them. For it is stated in the Koran in Sura 2, verse 85, that those believers who do not believe in everything the Koran states will be humiliated and receive the severest punishment; which means that they will roast in Hell. In other words, people who call themselves Muslims but who do not believe, for example, in Sura 9, verse 30, which states that Jews and Christians must be fought, or, for example, in Sura 5, verse 38, which states that the hand of a thief must be cut off, such people will be humiliated and roast in Hell. Note that it is not me who is making this up. All this can be found in the Koran. The Koran also states that Muslims who believe in only part of the Koran are in fact apostates, and we know what has to happen to apostates. They have to be killed.

Madam Speaker, the Koran is a book that incites to violence. I remind the House that the distribution of such texts is unlawful according to Article 132 of our Penal Code. In addition, the Koran incites to hatred and calls for murder and mayhem. The distribution of such texts is made punishable by Article 137(e). The Koran is therefore a highly dangerous book; a book which is completely against our legal order and our democratic institutions. In this light, it is an absolute necessity that the Koran be banned for the defence and reinforcement of our civilisation and our constitutional state. I shall propose a second-reading motion to that effect.

Madam Speaker, there is no such thing as "moderate Islam".... As Turkish Prime Minister Erdogan said the other day, and I quote, "There is no moderate or immoderate Islam. Islam is Islam and that's it".... Islam is in pursuit of dominance. It wishes to exact its imperialist agenda by force on a worldwide scale (8:39). This is clear from European history. Fortunately, the first Islamic invasion of Europe was stopped at Poitiers in 732; the second in Vienna in 1683. Madam Speaker, let us ensure that the third Islamic invasion, which is currently in full spate, will be stopped too in spite of its insidious nature and notwithstanding the fact that, in contrast to the 8th and 17th centuries, it has no need for an Islamic army because the scared "dhimmis"� in the West, also those in Dutch politics, have left their doors wide open to Islam and Muslims.

Apart from conquest, Madam Speaker, Islam is also bent on installing a totally different form of law and order, namely Sharia law. This makes Islam, apart from a religion for hundreds of millions of Muslims also, and in particular, a political ideology (with political/constitutional/Islamic basic values, etc). Islam is an ideology without any respect for others; not for Christians, not for Jews, not for non-believers and not for apostates. Islam aims to dominate, subject, kill and wage war.

Madam Speaker, the Islamic incursion must be stopped. Islam is the Trojan Horse in Europe. If we do not stop Islamification now, Eurabia and Netherabia will just be a matter of time. One century ago, there were approximately 50 Muslims in the Netherlands. Today, there are about 1 million Muslims in this country. Where will it end? We are heading for the end of European and Dutch civilisation as we know it. Where is our Prime Minister in all this? In reply to my questions in the House he said, without batting an eyelid, that there is no question of our country being Islamified. Now, this reply constituted
a historical error as soon as it was uttered. Very many Dutch citizens, Madam Speaker, experience the presence of Islam around them. And I can report that they have had enough of burkas, headscarves, the ritual slaughter of animals, so-called honour revenge, blaring minarets, female circumcision, hymen restoration operations, abuse of homosexuals, Turkish and Arabic on the buses and trains as well as on town hall leaflets, halal meat at grocery shops and department stores, Sharia exams, the Finance Minister's Sharia mortgages, and the enormous overrepresentation of Muslims in the area of crime, including Moroccan street terrorists.

In spite of all this, Madam Speaker, there is hope. Fortunately. The majority of Dutch citizens have become fully aware of the danger, and regard Islam as a threat to our culture. My party, the Freedom Party, takes those citizens seriously and comes to their defence.

Many Dutch citizens are fed up to the back teeth and yearn for action. However, their representatives in The Hague are doing
precisely nothing. They are held back by fear, political correctness or simply electoral motives. This is particularly clear in the case of PvdA, the Dutch Labour Party, which is afraid of losing Muslim voters. The Prime Minister said in Indonesia the other day that Islam does not pose any danger. Minister Donner believes that Sharia law should be capable of being introduced in the Netherlands if the majority want it. Minister Vogelaar babbles about the future Netherlands as a country with a Judeo-Christian-Islamic tradition, and that she aims to help Islam take root in Dutch society. In saying this, the Minister shows that she has obviously gone stark raving mad. She is betraying Dutch culture and insulting Dutch citizens.

Madam Speaker, my party, the Freedom Party, demands that Minister Vogelaar retract her statement. If the Minister fails to do so, the Freedom Party parliamentary group will withdraw its support for her. No Islamic tradition must ever be established in the Netherlands: not now and also not in a few centuries' time.

Madam Speaker, let me briefly touch on the government's response to the WRR [Netherlands Scientific Council for Government Policy] report. On page 12 of its response, the government states that Islam is not contrary to democracy or human rights. All I can say to that is that things can't get much more idiotic than this.

Madam Speaker, it is a few minutes to twelve. If we go on like this, Islam will herald the end of our Western civilisation as well as Dutch culture.

I would like to round off my first-reading contribution with a personal appeal to the Prime Minister on behalf of a great many Dutch citizens: stop the Islamification of the Netherlands!

Mr Balkenende, a historic task rests on your shoulders. Be courageous. Do what many Dutch citizens are screaming out for. Do what the country needs. Stop all immigration from Muslim countries, ban all building of new mosques, close all Islamic schools, ban burkas and the Koran. Expel all criminal Muslims from the country, including those Moroccan street terrorists that drive people mad. Accept your responsibility! Stop Islamification!

Enough is enough, Mr Balkenende. Enough is enough

[Bar Rat]

Mr Balkenende, a historic task rests on your shoulders. Be courageous. Do what many Dutch citizens are screaming out for. Do what the country needs. Stop all immigration from Muslim countries, ban all building of new mosques, close all Islamic schools, ban burkas and the Koran. Expel all criminal Muslims from the country, including those Moroccan street terrorists that drive people mad. Accept your responsibility! Stop Islamification!

Enough is enough, Mr Balkenende. Enough is enough

If a lawmaker in the U.S. had the balls to stand up and say this, both parties would vilify them on the spot. This person needs to come to the U.S. and get elected. I like it.

[AmpedNow]

A chilling parallel to what is happening here, just not as noticeable right now as it is throughout Western Europe.

It's important to remember that not all Muslims are warring extremists. The ones I know want no part of those nutcases. Like many Christians, they prefer to convert through peaceful example, not by a sword on the back of a neck.

I'm afraid that we have lost focus on fighting back against the extremists. Not only inside the country, but also in the international "war on terror". Heck, the term itself is now considered a politically incorrect pejorative against Islamic culture.

And only now in our ADD culture could we literally be in the middle of a war and forget why we were there in the first place...

[fearpeddler]

Another funny note for this convo.... The "extremists" built a statue in Clinton's honor...

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/art ... QD9BMPOPO2

[Bob Campbell]

SNOOOooooooorrreeeee.

[fearpeddler]

SNOOOooooooorrreeeee.

you'll think snore in a few years when they're on this side of the ocean pulling similar crap.....

[Scott Reppert]

"America, as we know it, has less than five years"--Scott Reppert.

Rack me...

[fearpeddler]

5, hell thats being hopeful... I give it 2

[Scott Reppert]

Well, my personal view is that 2012 is "the year the first deal goes down". From there on, it doesn't really matter.

I am writing a book, though. Seriously...

[Lester]

Are you going to address the fact that they're starting to think that 2012 might be a misinterpretation, and that the real date is after 2100?

[Scott Reppert]

Are you going to address the fact that they're starting to think that 2012 might be a misinterpretation, and that the real date is after 2100?

Your avatar holds part of the answer...

[Bob Campbell]

Or the fact that Mayans, around whom all this 2012 mess started, don't actually see 2012 as anything special.
Check out the book "Breaking the Maya Code". Came out in the late 90's documenting the first translations of Mayan heiroglyphs. It has a detailed look at the "Long Count", from which doomsday cultists get their 2012 fixation. The book came out before any of this 2012 nonsense thus it doesn't mention it. It's a pretty dry scientific book.

[genlock]

2012 doomsday theories are not catching on.
There is no way to make money off of them.

[Big Media]

2012 doomsday theories are not catching on.
There is no way to make money off of them.

Yep. Just not as catchy as Y2K, is it?


Where the hell's Arp? I can't explain why, but as soon as I saw this yarn, I assumed he'd be all over it.

[fearpeddler]

it was an attempt to draw him out.....

in other missing person news.... has anyone seen spike

[Scott Reppert]

Ooooh, hang on here again, fellows.

Old Uncle Scotty is not talking DOOMSDAY, here. I do not believe that will ever be such a thing as that.

This is something completely different...

[Bob Campbell]

We'll see how much money's in it when the "2012" movie comes out. December isn't it?

[AmpedNow]

We'll see how much money's in it when the "2012" movie comes out. December isn't it?

Later this month.

[Lester]

Spike actually mentioned some time ago that he was going to be less visible in the future. (A diet, perhaps? ) I think he's living the good life in Buchannon now.

Arp is busy... that's all I know. Probably replaced us with the facebooks.

[Jay Nunley]

Probably replaced us with the facebooks.

More girls there. This place is a total sausage festival.