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Hoosier Daddy wrote: There really aren't any losers here...

Not meaning to offend anyone, but I feel like a loser. Because my cable company would not upgrade since forever. Even if I go to the expense of buying tower, antennas, a converter box and so on, I may or may not get decent reception. Since I'm relegated to dial-up internet, I don't know how many stations, if any, I'll be able to access in Friendly just by calling up proposed digital coverage maps. As you all know, there are going to be many gaps in coverage because of terrain. I just wish that we could access any local station we pleased via satellite, because then this would be a moot point.

There are going to be a lot of people across the country that are on substandard cable systems that are going to be shocked in just a few days. I call this "The Big Lie," part 1...that if you're on cable, you're going to be fine. A lot of folks across the country aren't going to be fine...just another case of the 'haves' versus the 'have nots.' My wife and I haven't heard from anyone we've contacted-we just don't count in the big picture. How can you lose something you've relied on for almost 25 years and call that 'progress'?

Just my two cents' worth. Back to your regularly-scheduled programming, for those of you that can get it. :evil:
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You make some good points, Greg. Can someone tell me who (or what) got the ball rolling with the FCC on converting everything from analog to digital? Was it the NAB? Electronic broadcast equipment manufacturers? Individual stations? A vocal and politically active segment of the American population? SOMEONE had a vested (read=$$$$$) interest in drawing the plans for this monumental mandated technology change. It didn't just happen out of the blue ...

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Greg, I am absolutely with you on this. Because you are technically in a white area unserved by your locals, but unable to receive any locals over satellite, you must rely on cable. Since Windjammer pulled that rug out from under you, there are few options for people such as yourself.

Are you able to subscribe to any local channel package through satellite?
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Thanks, gentlemen. Big, to answer your question, I don't really know. Other than renting a P.O. box in another county, which I suspect is not exactly kosher, I don't know what other options I have. I'm planning to talk to our mayor, who will hopefully contact Newport, Ohio's mayor (if they even have one). Would grant monies be available anywhere? (Cue unstop laughter, growing in crescendo). Again, there's gonna be a lot of folks like me who will be viewing vultures hovering over their cable systems...not exactly the swallows returning to Capistrano.
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Latest DTV article in Broadcasting and Cable. Informative read in regards.

http://www.broadcastingcable.com/articl ... Switch.php
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Greg Goodfellow wrote:Even if I go to the expense of buying tower, antennas, a converter box and so on, I may or may not get decent reception. Since I'm relegated to dial-up internet, I don't know how many stations, if any, I'll be able to access in Friendly just by calling up proposed digital coverage maps. As you all know, there are going to be many gaps in coverage because of terrain. I just wish that we could access any local station we pleased via satellite, because then this would be a moot point.
Digital is not completely the enemy. The NAB and their stupid DMA laws are. Many will suffer more then they should simply because of their zip code.

It makes no sense that people like Greg have to suffer because they have a shitty cable company, or no service at all, just because of where they live. Why can't he get the nearest large market or the NY/LA distants in HD from DirecTV if he's willing to pay for it?

But, no, the burden of proof is on the "peasants". If we say we can't get their signal, we have to "prove" that we can't get it? If they send a field tester out, he gets the signal outside, but we can't get it on rabbit ears, we "lied", and have to pay for the field tests? Then they expect us to shell out a couple hundred bucks on an antenna system just to pull their signals out of the air?

F%#k you and your shitty signals. It's past due we see some justice on this issue.

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Ya know, K-Rock, you may be on to something. If an NBC and a CBS in the same market must compete for viewers, whey can't the FCC force two NBC is adjacent markets compete for viewers. If you are in the spot beam of the locals you want, you should have authorization to pull it and view it just like you could if you were in the coverage circles of those same locals.

This will never change.

Ultimately, retransmission fees are what is forcing the smaller cable companies out of business. Companies like Sinclair who seek ridiculous fees from the cable operators just so they can "retransmit" the same signal that's freely available to anyone who has an antenna. What a preposterous system.
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I would feel somewhat better about this situation IF our cable provider at the time (TWC) would have said something like this: "Due to the proposed DTV conversion, and the monies required for such, TWC in your area will be unable to provide signals after February 17, 2009. We wanted to give you sufficient lead time to make alternative arrangements." I appreciate honesty, even if I don't like the answer.
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CHARLESTON, W.Va. (AP) — West Virginia’s Public Service Commission has ordered a Florida-based company to reveal how many former Time Warner Cable customers in the state it plans to cut off.

Windjammer Communications acquired 80,000 customers from Time Warner last year, including about 2,660 in West Virginia.

The Palm Beach Gardens, Fla.-based company has told the PSC that it plans to cut off 19 subscribers in Gilmer County by mid-February.

Windjammer Executive Director Tim Evard says fewer than 10 percent of the total 80,000 customers will lose service. But Evard declined to say how many or where.

Evard says Windjammer is targeting operations with aging equipment and fewer than 200 subscribers because they aren’t economically viable.

Windjammer has until Friday to respond to the PSC’s order.
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Latest articles in regards today:

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http://www.tvnewsday.com/articles/2009/02/06/daily.2/
NEW YORK (AP) — Television viewers who use antennas and were expecting a few more months to prepare for digital TV may not have much time left before their sets go dark: Many stations still plan to drop analog broadcasts in less than two weeks.

When Congress postponed the mandatory transition to digital TV until June, it also gave stations the option to stick to the originally scheduled date of Feb. 17.

That means the shutdown of analog signals, which broadcasters had hoped would happen at nearly the same time nationwide, could now unfold in a confusing patchwork of different schedules.

Lawmakers wanted to address concerns that many households that receive TV signals through an antenna are not prepared for the switch. They were also mindful that a government fund has run out of money to subsidize digital converter boxes for older TVs.

Dozens of stations around the country now say they are going to take advantage of the option to drop analog broadcasts this month.

Many others are on the fence. The total number is likely to be in the hundreds, a substantial chunk and maybe even a majority of the country's 1,796 full-power TV stations.

The House voted Wednesday to delay the mandatory shutdown until June 12. The Senate passed the measure unanimously last week, and the bill now heads to President Barack Obama for his signature.

The legislation means analog signals could vanish entirely in some areas but persist in neighboring regions. In rural areas, low-power stations will continue to broadcast in analog even beyond June 12.

On Thursday, the Federal Communications Commission ordered stations that still plan to turn off analog signals on Feb. 17 to notify the FCC by Monday.

Acting Chairman Michael Copps said the commission could prohibit stations from making the switch if doing so is not in the public interest. For instance, if all stations in a market want to turn off early, that would draw FCC scrutiny, he said at a commission meeting.

For many broadcasters, delaying the shutdown is inconvenient and expensive. Many of them have scheduled engineering work on their equipment to make the transition on Feb. 17.

The Oklahoma Educational Television Authority, the public broadcasting network in the state, said Thursday that it planned to cease analog transmission from its full-power antennas at 1 p.m. on Feb. 17.

"We have four full-power stations all with 30-year-old-plus analog transmitters that are costly to maintain, putting out less than a quality signal," said Mark Norman, deputy director of technology at OETA.

"Sitting right alongside them are brand-new digital transmitters that have been running now for a few years. We just think it's counterproductive to continue to put money into the old ones."

Keeping the analog equipment in operation until June would cost the station about $200,000 at a time when the state is considering cutting its contribution to the budget, Norman said.

PBS spokeswoman Lea Sloan said about half of the 356 public broadcasting stations across the country will make the switch on Feb. 17. Many will do it for financial reasons. PBS said last month that if all its stations had to delay the switch, it would cost an estimated $22 million.

The Utah Broadcasters Association said the commercial stations in the state still plan to shut down analog on Feb. 17, while the public ones will wait until June.

In Wisconsin, at least two stations in Madison and five in the La Cross-Eau Claire plan to flip the switch on Feb. 17. In Minnesota, at least four stations plan to keep that date, along with five in Iowa.

Copps, the acting FCC chairman, said CBS, Fox, ABC and NBC and Telemundo had committed to keeping the stations they own broadcasting analog until June 12.

Together, they own 85 full-power stations, mainly in large cities. The rest of the stations that carry these networks are affiliates not owned by the network. ABC spokeswoman Julie Hoover said some of its stations may still go early if all other stations in their market do so.

Gannett Co. and Hearst-Argyle Television Inc. also pledged to maintain the vast majority of their stations on analog, Copps said. They own or operate 52 stations.

"These broadcasters deserve our gratitude. I encourage other broadcasters to join them," Copps said.

The transition to digital TV is being mandated because digital signals are more efficient than analog ones. Ending analog broadcasts will free up valuable space in the nation's airwaves for commercial wireless services and emergency-response networks.

In a few areas, including Hawaii, stations have already abandoned analog broadcasting.

TVs connected to cable or satellite services are not affected by the analog shutdown. But that still leaves a lot of people who could see channels go dark on Feb. 17. According to research firm MRI, 17.7 percent
of Americans live in households with only over-the-air TV.

Most of them are ready for the analog shutdown, according to the National Association of Broadcasters and analysts at the Nielsen Co. Nielsen said Thursday that more than 5.8 million U.S. households, or 5.1 percent of all homes, are not ready.

At the Oklahoma public broadcasting association, Norman believes viewers are ready for the switch. The network has invited viewers to call in with transition questions on several nights. Each time, the number of callers has been smaller, Norman said.

"We really don't think it's going be as major of an issue as people anticipated," he said.
So forcing stations to keep the analog running didn't make the final bill, but the FCC may mandate it anyway. Brilliant! :evil:




NAB Challenges Nielsen's DTV Counts

http://www.mediapost.com/publications/? ... _aid=99813
Nielsen says some 5% of U.S. homes are still unprepared for the digital transition.........

the National Association of Broadcasters issued a statement late Thursday contesting the accuracy of Nielsen's estimate, claiming it overstates the degree of unpreparedness among U.S. TV viewers.

Converter Boxes Could Run Out By End Of Month

http://www.broadcastingcable.com/articl ... _Month.php
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