Cheney: Montani semper incestus
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Cheney: Montani semper incestus
WASHINGTON, D.C. - Vice President Dick Cheney was at the Washington Press Club today to congratulate this year's winners of the Gerald R. Ford Journalism Prize for Distinguished Reporting on the Presidency. During a question-and-answer session toward the end of the luncheon, someone asked the vice president about his wife Lynne Cheney's revelation on MSNBC last year that "Dick and Barack Obama are eighth cousins."
The questioner jokingly asked the vice president if he and Obama were going to have a family reunion, to which Cheney replied he would "have no objections" though he said he doubted Obama would want one - "certainly not before November."
Then came the punch line. Cheney explained that during the course of researching his family lineage for Lynne's memoir "Blue Skies, No Fences" last year, he learned there were Cheneys on both his father's and his mother's side of the family.
"So I had Cheneys on both sides of the family and we don't even live in West Virginia," Cheney said.
Senator Robert Byrd of West Virginia was not amused:
"Now that he or the Administration he represents no longer needs their votes, Mr. Cheney apparently feels that he is now free to mock and belittle the people of West Virginia. With his trademark arrogance, the Vice President even added, 'You can say those things when you're not running for re-election.' This pitiful comment is not entirely surprising when you consider the source."
The questioner jokingly asked the vice president if he and Obama were going to have a family reunion, to which Cheney replied he would "have no objections" though he said he doubted Obama would want one - "certainly not before November."
Then came the punch line. Cheney explained that during the course of researching his family lineage for Lynne's memoir "Blue Skies, No Fences" last year, he learned there were Cheneys on both his father's and his mother's side of the family.
"So I had Cheneys on both sides of the family and we don't even live in West Virginia," Cheney said.
Senator Robert Byrd of West Virginia was not amused:
"Now that he or the Administration he represents no longer needs their votes, Mr. Cheney apparently feels that he is now free to mock and belittle the people of West Virginia. With his trademark arrogance, the Vice President even added, 'You can say those things when you're not running for re-election.' This pitiful comment is not entirely surprising when you consider the source."
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So West Virginians were hoodwinked by outsiders, only to be b-slapped when no longer needed.
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Over 50% of West Virginia families have no incest at all in their recent history.
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People need to lighten up a bit. I'm no fan of Cheney and the like, but it was funny.
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I think its similar to a non black guy sayin' the N word dave..... or at least thats the vibe i've got.
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We have become a nation that just goes around, hoping to be offended.
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They don't call him "Dick" for no reason at all ...

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from HuntingtonNews.netEDITORIAL: Dick Cheney: Loser of the Decade
West Virginians are accustomed to tasteless jokes made by people who are so insecure about their own state or their own lot in life that putting down West Virginia -- at times an easy target -- makes them feel smugly superior.
However, we are not accustomed to hearing it from the second highest official in the land.
Dick Cheney is nobody's pick for the prom these days, following nearly two terms of bad publicity for his poor advising of the President on the Iraq War, among other matters. He is generally depicted as a surly grump in the popular press and as a coward who did everything he could to avoid military service in college, getting several deferments.
This cowardly streak has continued as Vice President, where he is said to exercise an inordinate amount of power, while staying safely behind the shadow of the President--who takes the knocks for both of them.
To beat all, his accomplishments are so thin that he will probably best be remembered for shooting a hunting buddy in the face. With friends like that, who needs enemies!
Moreover, he is a very conflicted man. On one hand, he and his steely wife, Lynne, give support not only to their daughter but to her relationship with her lesbian lover. But this is talking out of both sides of their mouth, because they both have been adamant in their support of traditional family values over the years. Or so they tell us.
So it's really no wonder why Dick is looking for someone to pick on these days, and West Virginia is the easiest dog to kick for D.C. types. The fact that Cheney chose the prestigious National Press Club to deliver his remarks, describing his family lineage, saying that he had Cheneys on both sides of their family. "And we don't even live in West Virginia," Cheney said a punchline.
Now, West Virginians need to let these kind of remarks roll off our back like water. They are meaningless and only serve to point out the kind of person who says them. We shouldn't get too worked up about another man's pathetic life. In fact, we should probably pray for him.
For surely it is obvious: West Virginia doesn't have the problem here.
Dick Cheney does. And how.
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At this rate, he'll never get re-elected.
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I am glad I am a West Virginian, and that Chaney is not. There has been no inbreeding on either side of my ancesters, and I, unlike Chaney, am not related to Obama.
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Honestly... how do you KNOW that. Back in the day, shit like that didn't come up for discussion... even at Thanksgiving.SHADOW wrote:There has been no inbreeding on either side of my ancesters,
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Any chance I am related to Bill Gates or Donald Trump?
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One can only wonder what kind of reaction there would have been had the same joke been made by Senator Obama.
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Obama wouldn't have taken such a cheap shot.jag wrote:One can only wonder what kind of reaction there would have been had the same joke been made by Senator Obama.
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Yeah, he'd let Reverend Wright do it for him.

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Watch it, Lester. Your bright red "I Love Big Dick" underwear is showing ...

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Oh, I could give two shits about Cheney's comments. What's sad is Robert "Freakin' Hero" Byrd chimed in with another stupid ass "Ooooh... look at me... I'm offended" which will now guarantee an *INCREASE* in "West Virginian's F*ck Their Sisters" jokes for another 10 years.
Hell, I was born in Alabama and raised in WV. I'm supposed to be f*cking my sisters AND my cousins. Do the jokes bother me? Not one bit. Hell, I'll tell them if there's a laugh to be had.
Robert "Are my pants zipped" Byrd has once again engaged in partisan politics... OVER A JOKE.
Hell, I was born in Alabama and raised in WV. I'm supposed to be f*cking my sisters AND my cousins. Do the jokes bother me? Not one bit. Hell, I'll tell them if there's a laugh to be had.
Robert "Are my pants zipped" Byrd has once again engaged in partisan politics... OVER A JOKE.
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Wow. And to think I was just joking wth you.
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You care a whole lot about what a certain Presidential candidate's ex-pastor says, but you don't care at all about what words come out of the mouth of a sitting Vice President? That's just bizarre.Lester wrote:Oh, I could give two shits about Cheney's comments. What's sad is Robert "Freakin' Hero" Byrd chimed in with another stupid ass "Ooooh... look at me... I'm offended" which will now guarantee an *INCREASE* in "West Virginian's F*ck Their Sisters" jokes for another 10 years.
And so you perpetuate the stereotype. Why?Hell, I was born in Alabama and raised in WV. I'm supposed to be f*cking my sisters AND my cousins. Do the jokes bother me? Not one bit. Hell, I'll tell them if there's a laugh to be had.
He's the senior Senator from West Virginia who defended the citizens of West Virginia from a nationally-broadcast joke/insult made by none other than the Vice President of the United States. Good for Senator Byrd!Robert "Are my pants zipped" Byrd has once again engaged in partisan politics... OVER A JOKE.
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When was the last time the old byrd has been in this state for longer than two seconds? Or have something named after him?Hoosier Daddy wrote:
He's the senior Senator from West Virginia who defended the citizens of West Virginia from a nationally-broadcast joke/insult made by none other than the Vice President of the United States. Good for Senator Byrd!
Token outrage, just to get his name out there.
good, cause I would have shot it down faster than Old Byrd could walk.[/done with this, lest we get into one of them there Political Discussions ...]
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I really don't care, either. I just find it odd that a VP would buy in to the stereotypes.
However, the stereotypes are not entirely untrue. Maybe so for the last 3-4 generations, but before then, WV was an incredibly isolated region, and people were few and far between. There was probably quite a few instances of "cousin love" back then.
For example, they did extensive research on the Hatfield clan, of Hatfields and McCoys fame, and found several cases of inbreding within the clan.
Now that there are many people available in the gene pool, incest is just not needed or desired.
However, the stereotypes are not entirely untrue. Maybe so for the last 3-4 generations, but before then, WV was an incredibly isolated region, and people were few and far between. There was probably quite a few instances of "cousin love" back then.
For example, they did extensive research on the Hatfield clan, of Hatfields and McCoys fame, and found several cases of inbreding within the clan.
Now that there are many people available in the gene pool, incest is just not needed or desired.