Coach Kidd suspended for playing Michigan fight song

Jay Nunley · Post by **Jay Nunley** » Sat Dec 22, 2007 2:34 pm

You guys don't really think Coach Kidd actually alienated any listeners do you? I'll admit, I'm no expert on CHR or the average CHR listeners, but every woman that listens to Coach that I know went straight into protect and support mode (including the two or three who knew it was a stunt).

Even in a stunt it's always about how people actually use radio instead of how we think people use radio.

Hoosier Daddy · Post by **Hoosier Daddy** » Sat Dec 22, 2007 3:35 pm

Arp2 wrote:
Hoosier Daddy wrote:Automation.
Sure....dang helpful! I think everyone actually doing it will agree!

Helpful for saving money, not for making great radio.

Arp2 wrote:
Hoosier Daddy wrote:Voice tracking.
Yes....reasonable early, has gone much too far now.

Creates stations that sound robotic, bland, uninteresting.
Certainly doesn't help with the "show business" angle, now does it?

Arp2 wrote:
Hoosier Daddy wrote:Stale, national, consultant-driven playlists.
Just does not happen like you keep insisting it does. You and your netkook sources just have this wrong and always have. Why do you keep at it? What do you hope to or think you gain by repeating this lie over and over?

Why are you so defensive about consultants?
Why is everyone that disagrees with you a "kook"?

Arp2 wrote:What would a consultant get out of playing his favorites at some station a thousand miles out of earshot?

I never said that.

Arp2 wrote:What would a programmer get out of playing his favorites over listeners' favorites?

I never said that.
As usual, you put words in my mouth that I never said, than launch your attack.

Arp2 wrote:Besides, they're listener-driven "safe" lists! (And that's what they are...they are not playlists!) Where do "consultants" come up with their "safe" lists? From combining the exact responses of thousands of actual listeners, not other "consultants!"

A ha! Safe Lists! In other words, a collection of format-specific songs that are bland, well-worn, test well universally in every market with every audience member in the target age and gender range, and are almost always placed in a super-tight automatic rotation with other songs from the Safe List.

Youse guys have turned Show Business into an Accounting class, changing station programming formatics into some type of complex algebra problem that only has one answer. What happened to regional favorites, or playing a (station approved) new song that was starting to break on the charts?

If consultants only helped develop in-house talent and worked with the station's PD to tweak the overall sound, I wouldn't be so critical. But consultants are the agents that have made most stations in a specific format sound the same from coast to coast. Same imaging. Same liner cards. Same jingles and "theme packages". Same play lists, or SAFE lists, or whatever you call it. When you add voice tracking and automation, you've almost totally lost the "show business" element.

All you have is McRadio.

Arp2 wrote:
Hoosier Daddy wrote:Stations that are nothing more than commercials and music.
Hopefully an intermediate step...we'll see.

We'll see. I'm not hopeful. With the exception of a choking load of advertisments, many stations want to mimic someone's iPod (as far as music back to back with almost no human interaction or presence). A little more flexible playlist and a return to a more personality-driven radio format might turn things around.

Dave Allen · Post by **Dave Allen** » Sat Dec 22, 2007 6:05 pm

Damn.....

Well said!!!!

ashton · Post by **ashton** » Sun Dec 23, 2007 8:38 am

Great radio is still being made in Bristol. I listen to ESPN radio (140,141) every day. No need for an I-Pod, except that it's got OSX on it.. Once cracked, a lot of fun.

Krab,
Get ahold of that Conley bastard(maker) and get up to Morgantown. Drinks are on me.

Dave Allen · Post by **Dave Allen** » Sun Dec 23, 2007 10:14 am

Ditto on the ESPN Radio thing, although the overnight host, Jason Smith, may be the most annoying creatures I have ever heard on radio. Say what you want about him. but I think Stephen A. Smith (although I rarely agree with him) may be one of the most entertaining folks on radio or TV.

soccerguy · Post by **soccerguy** » Sun Dec 23, 2007 12:37 pm

The MOST annoying guy on ESPN Radio has to be Freddie Coleman. His delivery is horrible, especially when he says "E---S--P--N--Raid--eeeeo".

Glad to see they pushed him to "late" nights (when I'm not listening). Unfortunately, I have to hear him on weekends.

Bar Rat · Post by **Bar Rat** » Sun Dec 23, 2007 1:02 pm

webdesignguy wrote:The MOST annoying guy on ESPN Radio has to be Freddie Coleman. His delivery is horrible, especially when he says "E---S--P--N--Raid--eeeeo".

Glad to see they pushed him to "late" nights (when I'm not listening). Unfortunately, I have to hear him on weekends.

Agreed! And it seems like they think he'll get better with MORE airtime! It doesn't matter who they try to team him up with, he's still awful. Fortunately, I have XM and can just flip over to 142. I'm glad someone else thinks he sucks.

I like Colin Cowherd's show when I'm awake and in the car to hear it.

Kiddconley · Post by **Kiddconley** » Wed Dec 26, 2007 2:08 pm

Get ahold of that Conley bastard(maker) and get up to Morgantown. Drinks are on me.

I'll come to Morgantown when the rest of the sorry ass team follows Rich Rod out of there.

Insert your own Notre Dame 3 win season comment here:

_____________________________.

Thank you.
Kidd

Schaffer · Post by **Schaffer** » Wed Dec 26, 2007 5:33 pm

Kidd

I found an Irish pub in Baltimore that has 18 year old Jameson, in addition to some of the finest single malt Irish spirits money can buy. I think of you every time I raise my glass. Come for a visit, and I'll buy. Sorry, I know it has nothing to do with this thread, but you ability to murder a bottle of rich malted hops and still help me get laid is the only thing I ever liked about you.

Happy New Year, ya Irish fuck!

Schaff

ashton · Post by **ashton** » Wed Dec 26, 2007 7:34 pm

Kiddconley wrote:
Insert your own Notre Dame 3 win season comment here:

If you insist, but remember that you made me do it. I actually got to see them live this year, while hanging out with 110,138 of my closest friends in Happy Valley. There were a couple hundred more, but I'm sure they were all bastards in green.

Little Billy in Indiana has a pair of abusive parents who are divorcing one another. As circumstances would have it, he's of the age that he can pick where he'll live. The judge asks him to choose, but the child says neither. He wouldn't be able to take the abuse. The kid has no other relatives to speak of, so the judge asks him to pick an adoptive family. After thinking it over for a while, Billy tells the judge he'd like to live with Charlie Weiss. A confused judge asks why. Because he couldn't beat anyone this year.

All of that being said, I wasn't going to attack Notre Dame. I mean.. Every service academy needs a team that practices the values of that particular branch. The Army has a hard nosed team. Tough kids compete against all odds on the D-1 landscape, sometimes in unwinnable situations. They march on game after game. Then you have Airforce. The Run and Shoot passing attack is a work of art. Each game has you believing you are at an airshow. Navy, with their marine brethern have a fantastic running attack, piling up yard after yard.... Then you have the Coast Guard with their team.. the 3 win Notre Dame. I figure if you play all of the service academies, you must be one.. It's really a win-win for ND if they do become a military institution. Irish need alcohol to fight... Tell me you wouldn't join that branch if you had the chance. I believe the Murphys said it best when they said, "Drink and drink and drink and drink and drink and drink and fight!"

Oh, and Duke Sucks.

Mr. Tom Jones · Post by **Mr. Tom Jones** » Wed Dec 26, 2007 11:15 pm

Kiddconley wrote: I'll come to Morgantown when the rest of the sorry ass team follows Rich Rod out of there.

Insert your own Notre Dame 3 win season comment here:

_____________________________.

Thank you.
Kidd

The level of hatred for Rich Rod since his departure has to be seen to be believed.

I've had two casual acquaintances who are huge WVU fans tell me they're holding their noses, so to speak, and rooting for OSU and Notre Dame to beat Michigan next season.

Didn't some jock out of Charleston have the story about people buying the WVU 2008 calendars at a mall, and then after discovering the picture of Rich Rod on the back, taking them back to the store for a refund?

Mr. Smith · Post by **Mr. Smith** » Thu Dec 27, 2007 2:01 am

I heard the story about the calendars too. I sayscrew Fraudriguez.. It would be nice if everyone could just move past it and support the team during the Fiesta Bowl (for what it's worth.)

Kiddconley · Post by **Kiddconley** » Thu Dec 27, 2007 9:00 am

Ashton,

I've never seen someone go so far, for such an old joke. You added so much detail and imagery to the overall set up... that it actually made the joke funny again. Well done. Now, feck off. I would have at least thought we could have beaten Navy.

Shaf dog,

I'm in Ravenswood, which is what we would refer to as a "Third World Drinking" situation. They have a mexican restaurant which serves drink and a bar that only has canned beer. The closest town is Ripley, and they have no bar that I know of. It's so bad, I'm going up for Holy Communion 2 and three times just to try and get a buzz. I bring an extra shirt or two and change it out each time. I am either a raging alcoholic or the holiest person in Ravenswood. I expect to either kick the habit or a Stigmata any day now. My kids ask about you all of the time. You should come up for a weekend.. and we will have them fetch us beers the whole time. If we are lucky, the twins will get into a fist fight again. F the ufc.. I have a house full of Irish women! They were getting a little out of hand, until i told them they used to be triplets, and that I killed the other daughter for smarting me off. They were good for about 6 months after that. Anyways.. have a good New Year.

Bob Campbell · Post by **Bob Campbell** » Thu Dec 27, 2007 9:10 am

Aww, Conley playing the Catholic card. THAT'S why I love you.

Kiddconley · Post by **Kiddconley** » Thu Dec 27, 2007 11:17 am

Bob Campbell...

One of these days I would like to come across this board on you!

Krab · Post by **Krab** » Thu Dec 27, 2007 12:48 pm

wow Kidd Conley wants to come across a guy shocking!

Kiddconley · Post by **Kiddconley** » Thu Dec 27, 2007 1:18 pm

What up Krab??? Balls coming down in 3...2... I've tried to call you, but you have a different number every other week. Pay your f-ing bill and call me.

That was actually a line from the world famous Bob Campbell VSR' show back in the early 90's. You'd had to have been there at the time. You were probably just an 120 lb. infant back then (I would be nothing without a fat joke), but those were good times!

Krab · Post by **Krab** » Thu Dec 27, 2007 7:31 pm

Kidd please I have had the same number for years now Call the station and get it from Toni. of email me your number Matt@wqbe.com.

Kiddconley · Post by **Kiddconley** » Thu Dec 27, 2007 10:11 pm

Kidd please I have had the same number for years now Call the station and get it from Toni.

Oh, that's right! I just didn't want to call you. I forgot.

I'll try and get hold of you soon.

Bob Campbell · Post by **Bob Campbell** » Fri Dec 28, 2007 4:59 am

"Come across this board"....awww.....good times.

Do you still own that bar Kid?