WSAZ on air mistakes

[genlock]

The break-up at the transition point is because of the transmission if "I" frames.
Full picture, lots more data.
At other times the entire picture does not change much so "p" and "B" frames are sent.
Only the changing parts of the picture. Data load can sometimes be quite small.

Ture, but wouldn't dropped I-frames lead to stuttering of the entire picture? What lostone describes, now that I think about it some more, is classic bit-starving. The video noise is the slow filling-in of resolution via the p and B frames. Streaks maybe are decoder hits. I see the same thing on WETA-DT, as they run PBS HD plus THREE SD subchannels. Static pictures look great. Everything else is crap.

True, but when you cut from one source to another the ENTIRE picture changes, resetting the conditions for "b" and "p" frames also.
You will get very important "I" frames and if they are missing or compromised, the MPEG-2 conditions are lost. Breakup or loss of picture.

[Dave Loudin]

10-4. What got me rolling on this topic was our reception of WNVT-DT 30 at home. It's truly a local, but it's off-axis from the azimuth to DC by 40 degrees, so it gets hammered by multipath at the attic antenna. Lots of lockups that are followed by sub-blocks updating until the next I-frame comes along.

[genlock]

Damn, I love that kinda talk.

[Cameron]

Ding-A-Ling.
Cincinnati Bell Heading to Town

Holy hell! I just about had a heart-attack.
I thought you were talking about those hacks at that so-called telco.

Pac Bell and the West-Coast flavor of Sprint makes me flinch too!
(The Concord Telco Co-Op runs a close third).

[Cameron]

Compare active equalizers in Sony Wega on a good antenna and cheap converter on rabbit ears.
Retirees have a lot of time to experiment.

Um...no comparison. Been there, done that. Rabbit-ears on these boxes cause "avalanche-fade"
everytime someone gets a can of Coke out of the fridge.

Hey, the engineers are going to love the calls from the masses about their box "switching-off".
(Many of these converters are shipping with the "sleep-mode" defaulted to "on".)

[genlock]

Ding-A-Ling.
Cincinnati Bell Heading to Town

Holy hell! I just about had a heart-attack.
I thought you were talking about those hacks at that so-called telco.

Pac Bell and the West-Coast flavor of Sprint makes me flinch too!
(The Concord Telco Co-Op runs a close third).

Did I say that?

[Jay Nunley]

The only mistake WSAZ makes is not having Jessica Ralston on EVERY show.

[Kitesgot]

10-4. What got me rolling on this topic was our reception of WNVT-DT 30 at home. It's truly a local, but it's off-axis from the azimuth to DC by 40 degrees, so it gets hammered by multipath at the attic antenna. Lots of lockups that are followed by sub-blocks updating until the next I-frame comes along.

WOW Dave-------are you from the future?

[Dave Loudin]

That was a technical stream of thought, wasn't it? Sometimes I don't have much time to craft a response, plus I haven't had much opportunity to hash out the technical aspects of DTV reception. Now, someone hand me the flux capacitor...

[Rock]

I, in the meantime, am thoroughly entranced by this conversation. My appreciation for it could only grow if I knew what the heck they were talking about.

Bartholomew, Lester is correct. You have no business being retired.

[genlock]

I sometimes take a nap in the afternoon.
They would get pissed if I did that at work.
Even at public TV. Public Radio is another matter.

[Waveguide]

Cameron wrote:

genlock wrote:Ding-A-Ling.
Cincinnati Bell Heading to Town




Holy hell! I just about had a heart-attack.
I thought you were talking about those hacks at that so-called telco.

Pac Bell and the West-Coast flavor of Sprint makes me flinch too!
(The Concord Telco Co-Op runs a close third).

Too funny...... proves ya don't your Telco's.
You got no idea about Cincinnati Bell........
B.T.W., Cincinnati Bell and there wireless efforts just may show up in your foot prints.......
You just may not reconize them at first, and what they will be offering.
As for the new breed of Ohio Bell/Ameritec/SBC/at&t/ now that's an F*@%'ed up company now.
(as that now includes Pac Bell, and at&t has wasted those people).

Of course, that broadcast group from Micky D's 5th Ave Broadcasting,
now that qualifies as a "real piece of work", in the Radio World.

Your point???

[Hoosier Daddy]

The original Bell companies (including Cincinnati Bell) offered customers the most advanced and bulletproof telephone system in the world. Their closest competitor, General Telephone (a.k.a. "GTE"), was years behind Bell in innovation and quality of service, despite having invented direct dialing back in the 1920s. Nowadays, I just don't know. The momentum seems to be gone, the brain trust broken to pieces and scattered far and wide. Companies change names, divest, and then reassemble pieces of themselves to satisfy Wall Street's siren call at the moment. I'm sure individual talent still exists within each telco, but the whole telephone company operation seems to be a mongoloid breed of what it once was.

[Waveguide]

Dear Hoosier Daddy,

You really have gotten the point. And thank you!!!!!
IT'S ALL F*@%'ed NOW!!!!!! Don't matter who ya work for.
It's the bean counters, they are the bad guys!!!
And Wall Street isn't doing us favors, either.

It's a shame that GTE really fell on their faces. They could have been alot better in the game.
For their faults, they did have a few locks in the equipment game.
Its one of the reasons Lucent, ( back then ), bought up the Automatic Electric company,
including the patents and developments. Its the reason Alcatel-Lucent, ( the Gull damn French just has to get involved), still support the GTE GTD-5 AEX ( ESS to us bell heads ).
It's a fine machine. Still lots of them in the world. Remember, the Lucent 5E line is over 20+ years old too.

Who that in your Avatar? Looks like a very young Clinton Burley.....

[Waveguide]

Hoosier,..... shit, you changed you Avatar.......

[Hoosier Daddy]

Looks like a very young Clinton Burley.....

Oh Jesus.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

[Cameron]

Cameron wrote:

genlock wrote:Ding-A-Ling.
Cincinnati Bell Heading to Town




Holy hell! I just about had a heart-attack.
I thought you were talking about those hacks at that so-called telco.

Pac Bell and the West-Coast flavor of Sprint makes me flinch too!
(The Concord Telco Co-Op runs a close third).

Too funny...... proves ya don't your Telco's.
You got no idea about Cincinnati Bell........
B.T.W., Cincinnati Bell and there wireless efforts just may show up in your foot prints.......
You just may not reconize them at first, and what they will be offering.
As for the new breed of Ohio Bell/Ameritec/SBC/at&t/ now that's an F*@%'ed up company now.
(as that now includes Pac Bell, and at&t has wasted those people).

Of course, that broadcast group from Micky D's 5th Ave Broadcasting,
now that qualifies as a "real piece of work", in the Radio World.

Your point???

Just real-world F'n experience with Cincinnati Bell wiring much of the infastructure at the Kentucky Speedway with REVERSE WESTERN ELECTRIC COLOR-CODE.
This happened with cross-connects to remote dmarcs and the MAIN F_N PHONE ROOM AT THE BASE OF THE TOWER!
I guess in your world, Cincinnati Bell is so ahead of everyone else, toning-out every pair to see where the flip-flops end up (or just dead-head in some cases) is the respect one must pay to such a world-changing telco. Their techs on-site...with their little Cincinnati Bell hats didn't know what was going-on until I walked the pairs with them. And before you say it....THEY WERE THE SUBS THAT DID THE WIRING.
Just specifics. "Bulletproof" requires a complete circuit. Meanwhile, I'll marvel at your greatness.

[Bar Rat]

My one and only run-in with Cincinnati Bell was a complete, unmitigated disaster. They showed up 90 minutes before an install was needed (and was ordered well in advance).

Imbeciles.

[genlock]

Political Correctness requires that we hire Left-handed, Dyslexic, color=blind telco guys.

Pepper had nothing to do with this.

[Cameron]

My one and only run-in with Cincinnati Bell was a complete, unmitigated disaster. They showed up 90 minutes before an install was needed (and was ordered well in advance).

Imbeciles.

You didn't realize that THEY knew EXACTLY when you needed the line and their GREATNESS would allow for plenty of time to get that circuit ready EXACTLY when you needed it.


...and to respond to Gen... give me Pepper any day before the, "Press 1 if this is a business line"...."...our business office is now closed".

But what does this have to do with WSAZ's on-air mistakes? You think the devolution of Ma Bell has something to do with it?

Press 1 for yes.
Press 2 for no.
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